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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Is it this module here (or similar)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.nord.com/cms/media/documents/datasheets/TI_275281117_SK_TU4-ECT_EN_4217_screen.pdf">https://www.nord.com/cms/media/documents/datasheets/TI_275281117_SK_TU4-ECT_EN_4217_screen.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The back of this unit has dip switches:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i>Second Address (DIP 2..10)<o:p></o:p></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i>The "Second Address" can be set via this switch and controlled in parameter P181.<o:p></o:p></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i>If all DIP switches 2..10 are moved to the "OFF" position, the "Second Address" can be set via parameter P160.<o:p></o:p></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This means that if you set an alias on this slave via the "ethercat alias" command it will only remain active until the unit is repowered. If the dip switches are set it will apply an alias based on the dip switches. If the dip switches
are all off it will use the P160 parameter.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Use the dip switches or P160 to set your alias for this unit, not the "ethercat alias" command.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Graeme Foot.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> etherlab-users <etherlab-users-bounces@etherlab.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joachim Sällvin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 18 February 2020 6:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gavin Lambert <gavin.lambert@tomra.com>; etherlab-users@etherlab.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [etherlab-users] Slave lost forever after power cycling<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Thank you very much for your reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">It seems like the position on the slave network doesn't matter. What matters i the alias addressing of this particular slave. When I don't give the TU4 slave any alias address I can power-cycle
it without loosing it. But as soon as I've given it an alias address and power-cycle it is lost (not every time but almost).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">What might cause this? It seems like the EEPROM/Sii of the slave overwritten at start-up when it has been given an alias address. Is there a way to prevent this? How does this work "under the hood"?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I use "sudo ethercat -p1 alias 2" for example to give the slave on position 1 the alias address 2. Nothing wrong here I presume since it seems to work for other slaves.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I've been in contact with the vendor of the TU4 module and they claim that this module is working in big volumes (thousands) on the market. All their other customers use TwinCAT and they haven't
heard of this problem. I have also tried three different TU4 modules to exclude the possibility of one failing individual.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Examples:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">1.All slaves have alias addresses => TU4-ECT lost after power-cycling.</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="SV">$ sudo ethercat slaves </span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="SV">0 1:0 PREOP + AXL F BK EC, Axioline EtherCAT Fieldbus coupler </span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="SV">1 2:0 PREOP + TU4-ECT </span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="SV">2 3:0 PREOP + ifm IO-Link Master AL1930 </span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="SV">3 4:0 PREOP + ifm IO-Link Master AL1332 </span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="SV" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="SV">Power-cycling...</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="SV">$ sudo ethercat slaves </span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="SV">0 1:0 PREOP + AXL F BK EC, Axioline EtherCAT Fieldbus coupler </span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="SV">1 2:0 PREOP + ifm IO-Link Master AL1930 </span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="SV">2 3:0 PREOP + ifm IO-Link Master AL1930 </span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="SV">3 4:0 PREOP + ifm IO-Link Master AL1332 </span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="SV" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><b><span lang="SV">2. No slave has an alias address => No problem after power-cycling.</span></b><span lang="SV" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">$ sudo ethercat slaves <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">0 0:0 PREOP + AXL F BK EC, Axioline EtherCAT Fieldbus coupler <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">1 0:1 PREOP + ifm IO-Link Master AL1930 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">2 0:2 PREOP + ifm IO-Link Master AL1332 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">3 0:3 PREOP + TU4-ECT <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">Power-cycling...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">$ sudo ethercat slaves <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">0 0:0 PREOP + AXL F BK EC, Axioline EtherCAT Fieldbus coupler <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">1 0:1 PREOP + ifm IO-Link Master AL1930 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">2 0:2 PREOP + ifm IO-Link Master AL1332 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">3 0:3 PREOP + TU4-ECT <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><b><span lang="SV">3. All slaves but the TU4 has alias addresses => No problem</span></b><span lang="SV"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">$ sudo ethercat slaves <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">0 1:0 PREOP + AXL F BK EC, Axioline EtherCAT Fieldbus coupler <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">1 2:0 PREOP + ifm IO-Link Master AL1930 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">2 3:0 PREOP + ifm IO-Link Master AL1332 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">3 3:1 PREOP + TU4-ECT <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">Power-cycling...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">$ sudo ethercat slaves <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">0 1:0 PREOP + AXL F BK EC, Axioline EtherCAT Fieldbus coupler <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">1 2:0 PREOP + ifm IO-Link Master AL1930 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">2 3:0 PREOP + ifm IO-Link Master AL1332 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">3 3:1 PREOP + TU4-ECT <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="SV">Best regards,</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="SV" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="SV">Joachim Sällvin</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Från:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Gavin Lambert <<a href="mailto:gavin.lambert@tomra.com">gavin.lambert@tomra.com</a>><br>
<b>Skickat:</b> den 16 februari 2020 23:58<br>
<b>Till:</b> Joachim Sällvin <<a href="mailto:joachim.sallvin@corpowerocean.com">joachim.sallvin@corpowerocean.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:etherlab-users@etherlab.org">etherlab-users@etherlab.org</a> <<a href="mailto:etherlab-users@etherlab.org">etherlab-users@etherlab.org</a>><br>
<b>Ämne:</b> RE: Slave lost forever after power cycling</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US">Have you tried putting it in different positions on the slave network? Perhaps it only vanishes when downstream of a particular slave; then the problem might be with that slave’s configuration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US">Etherlab typically assumes that all slaves are configured with DL auto-open mode (so that slaves that are connected or rebooted are automatically brought into the virtual ring network), but it’s possible that one of
your upstream slaves has been configured in the explicit open mode instead.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#595959">Senior Software Developer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Joachim Sällvin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 14 February 2020 22:34<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:etherlab-users@etherlab.org">etherlab-users@etherlab.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [etherlab-users] Slave lost forever after power cycling<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Hi all,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I loose contact with my TU4-ECT (freq inverter from Nord Drive) slave after power-cycling it when there are other slaves on the bus. This happens intermittently. Only a EEPROM reset
(I use TwinCAT for this ) can make it accessible again. When it is the only slave on the bus it seems as I can power-cycle and always access again.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Has anyone experienced the same problem? What might cause this? Workarounds?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Example:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Before power-cycling the TU4-ECT (all slaves have been given alias addresses):</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="SV">$ sudo ethercat slaves </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="SV">0 1:0 PREOP + EK1100 EtherCAT-Koppler (2A E-Bus) </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="SV">1 2:0 PREOP + EL2004 4K. Dig. Ausgang 24V, 0.5A </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="SV">2 3:0 PREOP + ifm IO-Link Master AL1332 </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><span lang="SV">3 4:0 INIT E TU4-ECT </span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="SV">After power-cycling the TU4-ECT:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">$ sudo ethercat slaves </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">0 1:0 PREOP + EK1100 EtherCAT-Koppler (2A E-Bus) </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">1 2:0 PREOP + EL2004 4K. Dig. Ausgang 24V, 0.5A </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">2 3:0 PREOP + ifm IO-Link Master AL1332 </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><b><span lang="SV">3 8:0 PREOP + ifm IO-Link Master AL1332
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">Lost!!!</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">I'm using Linux kernel 4.13.13-rt5, Ubuntu 18.04 and EtherCAT master 1.5.2.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="SV">Joachim Sällvin</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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