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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Graeme,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks for all the information. It’s more clear for me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Vincent BUSSIERES<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Responsable Technique Logiciel<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>De :</b> Graeme Foot <Graeme.Foot@touchcut.com> <br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> vendredi 3 juillet 2020 01:13<br>
<b>À :</b> BUSSIERES Vincent <vincent.bussieres@hemeria-group.com>; etherlab-users@etherlab.org<br>
<b>Objet :</b> RE: AL States<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Vincent,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">If the master operational state is different to each slaves operational state. If the master phase is in Operation (via the "ethercat master" command) it means that ecrt_master_activate()
has been called and the master can activate the slaves that have been configured and realtime operation has begun.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">If a slave is not configured the master does not know about it so it will stay in PREOP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">If a slave has a different alias to the one configured the master can not correctly connect to it so it will stay in PREOP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">For all slaves the master does know about, and can connect to, the master will attempt to bring them into OP mode. However, each slave needs to be brought to OP mode via a state machine
that takes a little time. If you are not using Gavin Lamberts patchset the master will do so one slave at a time. If you are using his patchset then it will do ~ 16 slaves in parallel at a time, so somewhat faster.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Conversely, when you call ecrt_master_deactivate() all known and connected slaves are returned to PREOP and then the master goes to the Idle phase.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Also, just to add a little extra, if the master is idle you can use the "ethercat states" command to manually request a state on a particular slave. So a slave could actually be in
OP state while the master is idle.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">So to directly answer your question "</span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black">Can master be considered as OP state if at least one slave is in OP state?": No.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black">If you have called</span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> ecrt_master_activate(), and it returned success, your master is operational, until you call ecrt_master_deactivate(). However, whether
you consider your system ready to use will probably depend in whether all your required slaves are up and running at the OP state.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">And for extra credit, slaves can be hot connected and comms can be interrupted. If the master is active it will handle slaves disappearing and appearing and, for configured slaves, run through their
state machines to get them back to OP mode automatically. So if you have a group of slaves that can be disconnected (on purpose), put them in a separate domain and use ecrt_domain_state() to check the wc_state parameter to ensure that group of slaves is fully
operational for the functions they need to perform.</span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Graeme.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> BUSSIERES Vincent <<a href="mailto:vincent.bussieres@hemeria-group.com">vincent.bussieres@hemeria-group.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 3 July 2020 8:15 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Graeme Foot <<a href="mailto:Graeme.Foot@touchcut.com">Graeme.Foot@touchcut.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:etherlab-users@etherlab.org">etherlab-users@etherlab.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: AL States<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black">Indeed, some slaves are not in OP state. There are 6 slaves on my network, two of them are in PREOP state.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black">I can get their states using ethercat slaves -v command but when I run ethercat master command, master is in OP state.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black">Can master be considered as OP state if at least one slave is in OP state?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black">Best reagards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black">De :</span></b><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"> Graeme Foot <<a href="mailto:Graeme.Foot@touchcut.com">Graeme.Foot@touchcut.com</a>><br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> lundi 29 juin 2020 00:12<br>
<b>À :</b> BUSSIERES Vincent; <a href="mailto:etherlab-users@etherlab.org">etherlab-users@etherlab.org</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> RE: AL States</span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black">If you are using ecrt_master_state() the al_states parameter is filled in by all slaves with an OR operation. So for each bit that is set you can interpret that as at least one slave was in that state. If there is
a state bit set you are not happy with (or expecting) then you will need to interrogate each slave individually to find out which slave(s) are in that state, using ecrt_slave_config_state().<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black">On startup (or comms interruption and recovery) you can expect to see slaves at different stages on the way to OP mode. If you are fully operational and you have a PREOP bit set, then you likely have a device that
is not known so is not configured, or has the wrong address so it is not being attached to correctly. If a slave stays in SAFEOP then you probably have a configuration error, check the logs to figure out the problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black">Graeme.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"> etherlab-users <<a href="mailto:etherlab-users-bounces@etherlab.org">etherlab-users-bounces@etherlab.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>BUSSIERES Vincent<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 26 June 2020 9:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:etherlab-users@etherlab.org">etherlab-users@etherlab.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [etherlab-users] AL States</span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Hello,</span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">I’d like to display AL state in my HMI.</span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">AL states are :</span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">But when I read AL states, states are respetively :</span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">So, in some cases I don’t know in which state I am ?</span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">How can I determine AL State ?</span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Regards</span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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