[etherlab-users] R: Random Datagram Unmatched

Viola Roberto roberto.viola at systemceramics.com
Tue May 21 14:48:30 CEST 2019


Hi Gavin,
  first of all, thanks for the answer.
I’ve already tried ec_igb (with your patch for kernel 4.14 BTW) and it gives me the same issue with about the same frequency: i guess it’s not a matter for ec_generic itself.
I’m working on my desk so no motor cables or power in the neighborhoods (for the moment ☺ )
I’ve checked the “ethercat crc” (i have no ethercat diag option, is it ok?) and the counters are always set to 0 even when i have the issue (just to be sure i let it run for 1 hour, and CRC counters are always 0 but i see several Unmatched datagrams)

   |Port 0         |Port 1         |Port 2         |Port 3         |
   |CRC PHY FWD NXT|CRC PHY FWD NXT|CRC PHY FWD NXT|CRC PHY FWD NXT|
  0|  0   0   0    |               |               |               |


This crc thing plus the packet’s counter thing by ifconfig push me to think that sometimes the ec module ignores a packet even if ethernet card receives it. Is is possible?

What happen when EC gives me this warning? I mean, i will lost the informations inside the unmatched packet for sure, but if this issue happens when i write a SDO instead of a PDO the EC will retry automatically to send another SDO packet?
So, it’s just a performance loss or it’s a real issue that could create logic issue to the upper software levels?
Thanks
Roberto

Da: Gavin Lambert [mailto:gavin.lambert at tomra.com]
Inviato: martedì 21 maggio 2019 01:34
A: Viola Roberto <roberto.viola at systemceramics.com>; etherlab-users at etherlab.org
Oggetto: RE: Random Datagram Unmatched

ec_generic can be a mixed bag at 1kHz, depending on your hardware and other processing load.  It usually works, but not always.

If you haven’t already, you can try using ec_igb with a PREEMPT_RT kernel; that’s usually more stable than ec_generic.  (Xenomai would be even more stable, but is usually not required at 1kHz.)

Another possibility to consider is that it might be your cables; they could be getting a noise spike from somewhere and corrupting the packet.  Check the error counters in the slaves (“ethercat crc” and/or “ethercat diag”) and try using STP cable if you can rather than UTP, and avoid running it alongside power or motor cables.


Gavin Lambert
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From: Viola Roberto
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May 2019 02:39
To: etherlab-users at etherlab.org<mailto:etherlab-users at etherlab.org>
Subject: [etherlab-users] Random Datagram Unmatched

Hi everybody,
  i’m playing with this great library and it’s just works!
I’m running it on a Intel Atom E3930 Dual Core 1.3GHz with 4.14.109 preemptive + xenomai 3.1.

So i started compiling the xenomai example over the ec_generic module. It works, but sometimes (randomly) i saw a classic “datagram UNMATCHED”

[ 4187.708617] EtherCAT WARNING 0: 1 datagram UNMATCHED!
[ 4187.844433] EtherCAT WARNING: Datagram ffff89b4783bc798 (domain0-0-main) was SKIPPED 1 time.
[ 4188.392447] EtherCAT 0: Domain 0: Working counter changed to 3/3

The error is not deterministic but it occurs often if i increase the load of the system.
Reading the ML i understood that at 1KHz everything should run fine even with the ec_generic (i have 2 igb port BTW), isn’t it?
I’ve tried 1KHz, 500Hz, 100Hz but the issue is always there (stepping down the frequency of the main loop causing the issue be less visible).

I’ve also tried to playing with the ethernet IRQ throttling but they make no differences.

ifname="enp2s0"
ifconfig $ifname up
ethtool -L $ifname combined 1
ethtool -C $ifname rx-usecs 0 # default 3
ethtool -C $ifname tx-usecs 0 # default 3

I’ve tried to change the thread RT priority with 50-82-… but the issue is always there.

When it happens, looking the stats from “ifconfig”, there aren’t any drop of packages (rx and tx go together correctly).

I have no other idea except compiling with –enable-rtdm: i’ve tried but the compiling/linking process fails.
Here are my steps:

./bootstrap
CFLAGS=`/usr/xenomai/bin/xeno-config --alchemy --rtdm --compat --cflags`
LDFLAGS=`/usr/xenomai/bin/xeno-config --alchemy --rtdm --compat --ldflags`
./configure --enable-kernel --enable-generic --enable-ccat --disable-8139too --disable-e100 --disable-e1000 --disable-e1000e --disable-r8169 --enable-sii-assign --enable-hrtimer --enable-igb --with-linux-dir=/usr/src/linux-headers-4.14.109/ --prefix=/usr --enable-rtdm --with-xenomai-dir=/usr/xenomai/
make all modules

/usr/xenomai/lib/xenomai/bootstrap.o: In function `xenomai_main':
bootstrap.c:(.text+0x0): multiple definition of `xenomai_main'
/usr/xenomai/lib/xenomai/bootstrap.o:bootstrap.c:(.text+0x0): first defined here
/usr/xenomai/lib/xenomai/bootstrap.o:(.rodata+0x0): multiple definition of `xenomai_auto_bootstrap'
/usr/xenomai/lib/xenomai/bootstrap.o:(.rodata+0x0): first defined here
/root/ethercat/lib/.libs/libethercat_rtdm.so: undefined reference to `rt_printk'
/root/ethercat/lib/.libs/libethercat_rtdm.so: undefined reference to `rt_dev_ioctl'
/root/ethercat/lib/.libs/libethercat_rtdm.so: undefined reference to `rt_dev_open'
/root/ethercat/lib/.libs/libethercat_rtdm.so: undefined reference to `rt_dev_close'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
Makefile:421: recipe for target 'ec_xenomai_example' failed
make[4]: *** [ec_xenomai_example] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory '/root/ethercat/examples/xenomai'
Makefile:454: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory '/root/ethercat/examples'
Makefile:406: recipe for target 'all' failed
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory '/root/ethercat/examples'
Makefile:515: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/root/ethercat'
Makefile:441: recipe for target 'all' failed
make: *** [all] Error 2
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
  CC [M]  /root/ethercat/master/rtdm.o
In file included from include/xenomai/cobalt/kernel/thread.h:27:0,
                 from include/xenomai/cobalt/kernel/sched.h:24,
                 from include/xenomai/rtdm/driver.h:37,
                 from /root/ethercat/master/rtdm.c:37:
include/xenomai/cobalt/kernel/timer.h:28:34: fatal error: asm/xenomai/wrappers.h: No such file or directory
#include <asm/xenomai/wrappers.h>
                                  ^
compilation terminated.
scripts/Makefile.build:326: recipe for target '/root/ethercat/master/rtdm.o' failed
make[3]: *** [/root/ethercat/master/rtdm.o] Error 1
scripts/Makefile.build:585: recipe for target '/root/ethercat/master' failed
make[2]: *** [/root/ethercat/master] Error 2
Makefile:1535: recipe for target '_module_/root/ethercat' failed
make[1]: *** [_module_/root/ethercat] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-4.14.109'
Makefile:936: recipe for target 'modules' failed
make: *** [modules] Error 2

Thanks in advance
R.
Roberto Viola

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