[Etherlab-users] Experience with EL6992

Merkel, Amos Amos.Merkel at ifas.rwth-aachen.de
Thu Apr 14 13:05:55 CEST 2022


Hi Richard, 

Knowing that it should generally work is really valuable!  Actually I have already used Twincat on primary side and EtherLab on secondary some time ago, so I know that works. If you managed to operate the other way round, using Etherlab on both sides has to work as well somehow. I will spend some more effort on this and give feedback if I find something interesting for all.

Thanks a lot for your Input!

Cheers,
Amos

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Von: Richard Hacker <ha at igh.de> 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. April 2022 10:25
An: Merkel, Amos <Amos.Merkel at ifas.rwth-aachen.de>; etherlab-users at etherlab.org
Betreff: Re: AW: [Etherlab-users] Experience with EL6992

Hi Amos

Firstly, that project was 7 years ago... my memory is fading ;)

Our system was the primary, we controlled the E-bus, configuring up PDO's as in the script.

The secondary system was TwinCAT from the client and I was little involved therein, so I cannot speak of experience. But I guess the secondary side is mirrored as you suspected.

I'd set up the primary (E-Bus) and check that it works reliably (OP) with secondary disconnected. Then connect the secondary and scan it. It should reflect the PDO's as configured.

I'm sorry, I don't have more experience with the secondary side. I don't even know whether the sequence of initialization (primary first, then secondary or other way round) is important. I just wanted to note that in principle the slave works as expected.

Good luck!

Richard

On 4/14/22 10:03, Merkel, Amos wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> 
> 
> Of course, I meant the EL6692 - too many sixes and nines...
> 
> 
> Odd, that looks almost exactly like what I used - the secondary side 
> is basically the same with mirrored In-/Outputs, right? You don't have 
> the odd effects with the operating states as well?
> 
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Amos
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> *Von:* Richard Hacker <ha at igh.de>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. April 2022 15:09:51
> *An:* etherlab-users at etherlab.org
> *Cc:* Merkel, Amos
> *Betreff:* Re: [Etherlab-users] Experience with EL6992 Hi Merkel
> 
> You mean the EL6692 ;)
> 
> That must be some mistake somewhere on your side. I successfully used 
> that slave in the past, attached is a matlab script for the generic 
> slave in etherlab_lib, but I am sure you would be able to process it 
> for your needs.
> 
> Richard
> 
> On 4/13/22 14:06, Merkel, Amos wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I am tryingto set up a Beckhoff EL6992 terminal and ran into some 
>> unexpected problems. Has anyone experience with this hardware?
>> 
>> Here is my problem:
>> 
>> The EL6992 is an EtherCAT bridge terminal, allowing communication 
>> between two EtherCAT systems. For that, it consists of actually two 
>> ethercat slaves, one „primary“ slave on one system and a „secondary“ 
>> slave on a second system. The primary side can configure PDOs for 
>> communication which the secondary side can then use.
>> 
>> First odd thing I notice are the operating states: The terminal 
>> initializes in „OP“ on the primary side and in „OP“ or „PreOp+E“ on 
>> secondary side. I have yet to understand what decides the state of 
>> the secondary side
>> 
>> So far I managed to  configure PDOs for communication on both sides. 
>> For this to work, I have to manually set the operating states on both 
>> sides to Init, then to PreOp, then start my control job on primary 
>> side, then on secondary side. Otherwise the configuration is not accepted.
>> 
>> However, on both sides the system freezes shortly after starting the 
>> control jobs. System freeze is complete, even Alt+Print+REISUB does 
>> not work anymore.
>> 
>> A similar thing happens when I try to kill a control job shortly 
>> after starting it:
>> 
>> The control job can not be killed, not with Strg+C, and not with kill 
>> <PID>. Shortly after trying, the system freezes graduadely, sometimes 
>> rebooting still works, sometimes I have to default back to
>> Alt+Print+REISUB. I have tried reading the dmesg output while killing
>> the control job, I can’t find error messages, the output stops at 
>> „releasing Master 0…“
>> 
>> I would be most grateful for any pointers on how to proceed with this.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Amos
>> 
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